Thistle
Sirin starter bow (Grace). Craft after Rise, Envoy; post-P15 stats: 44 ATK. Upgrade to Juniper or Avex.
Thistle vs Vetch
Do not treat Thistle and Vetch as a straight upgrade—Thistle is the Sirin starter Bow (Grace, Common, **44 attack** post-P15, no virtue gate) while Vetc...
Weapon overview
Vetch
Dendrit longsword (Courage 11 + Grace). Dermak / Etheldred fragment line; thrusting heavy attack. First real upgrade from Wulder.
Stat comparison
Catalogue stats from our database. Green highlights apply only when both weapons share the same type and virtue path.
Different types: Bows vs Long Blades
| Stat | Thistle | Vetch |
|---|---|---|
| Type Weapon class and moveset family. | Bows | Long Blades |
| Virtue path Primary virtue alignment for effective use. | Grace | Courage |
| Attunement Virtues this weapon can scale with. | Grace | Courage, Grace |
| Virtue requirement Minimum virtue investment to wield effectively. | None | 11 |
| Rarity Catalogue rarity tier when listed. | Common | Uncommon |
| Base attack Listed base attack from our catalogue. | 44 | 48 |
| Charged attack Listed charged heavy attack value. | 110 | 96 |
| Stagger Stagger damage on heavy attacks. | 18 | 30 |
| Smite chance Chance to trigger smite on heavy attacks. | 5% | 3% |
| Craft cost Materials and Dracs from our catalogue. | Scrap Iron×15, Dendrit Weave×20… + 1500 Dracs (4h) | Scrap Steel×25, Silistyt×20… + 2500 Dracs (10h) |
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Next steps
Acquisition notes reflect Preludes 15 catalog lastVerified dates. Unverified drops are marked on each weapon page. Preludes 15 patch notes.